Discussion:
[PCR-1000] PCR1000 Web - Remote Control
Matt Curtis
2002-02-27 16:51:49 UTC
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Hi All,

im looking for some software to control the PCR1000 remotely via the internet, so people can remotely tune etc.
i know that there is www.javaradio.com - which is a linux based software, but i wondered if there was anything else about, that could be used with WIN95/98/2K/NT4 etc?

any help or info would be great.
thanks in advance.
Matt



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Mark L. Hammond
2002-02-27 17:30:53 UTC
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Well, I recently got back from a trip to find my PCR-1000 had been returned
from Icom. (Quick history--I returned it for being "deaf", under
warranty. They said it was from corruption caused by third party software,
and it would cost me a hefty price--NOT covered by the warranty. I denied
repair; they charged me $25 for the "estimate" + about $10 shipping. Total
cost was about $45 to me, still not fixed!)

Luckily, I had backed up my radio with the "backpcr" program shortly after
I purchased it. The data came in handy :) I did restore it--took all of
about 5 mins, including the boot to Win98 command line via floppy. It is
working fine again.

I have been having fun looking over the comparsions/analysis of various
settings of the EEPROM that were posted on the web (the name escapes me at
the moment...). My unit has some values (in addition to the freq/crystal
one of course) that vary quite a bit from the "average". Some are at, or
even beyond, the ranges specified. So, I might experiment a bit with
custom settings for some of the values. Not as good as a "real" alignment,
but easy and potentially fun to do :-)



Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
Mark L. Hammond
2002-02-27 21:39:22 UTC
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If you remember where the comparisons and analysis of the settings are
located, please let me know.
I have never seen them and am interested in them
Thanks muchly, Marvin
Hello Marvin,

I started here: http://www.gcn.ou.edu/~jahern/home/pcr1000/

which led me links at the bottom of the page which give
ranges/averages/discussion here by John McDermon:
http://www.gcn.ou.edu/~jahern/home/pcr1000/backup_eeprom.html#anchor174267


Hope that helps---I found it quite interesting. I wish somebody would
pick up this project, or continue it. It's quite interesting...



Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
R***@aol.com
2002-02-27 17:45:49 UTC
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In a message dated 02/27/2002 12:32:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
***@surrealnet.net writes:

<< They said it was from corruption caused by third party software,
and it would cost me a hefty price--NOT covered by the warranty. >>

Just for grins...how much was the "hefty price"?

Roger
WA1KAT
George, W5YR
2002-02-27 20:14:20 UTC
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I use Remote Administrator from

http://www.famatech.com

to control one computer from another over my LAN. I understand that it
works equally well via the Internet. Registration is only $25 and the
program is claimed to be much faster than PCAnywhere, etc.

72/73/oo, George W5YR - the Yellow Rose of Texas
Fairview, TX 30 mi NE of Dallas in Collin county EM13qe
Amateur Radio W5YR, in the 56th year and it just keeps getting better!
QRP-L 1373 NETXQRP 6 SOC 262 COG 8 FPQRP 404 TEN-X 11771 I-LINK 11735
Icom IC-756PRO #02121 Kachina #91900556 IC-765 #02437

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Post by Matt Curtis
Hi All,
im looking for some software to control the PCR1000 remotely via the internet, so people can remotely tune etc.
i know that there is www.javaradio.com - which is a linux based software, but i wondered if there was anything else about, that could be used with WIN95/98/2K/NT4 etc?
Jim Shaffer
2002-02-27 21:44:52 UTC
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Post by George, W5YR
I use Remote Administrator from
http://www.famatech.com
to control one computer from another over my LAN. I understand that it
works equally well via the Internet. Registration is only $25 and the
program is claimed to be much faster than PCAnywhere, etc.
If you use VNC from http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ it won't cost you
anything and it doesn't matter what operating system the clients are using.
However, I don't know how you're going to keep people from messing with your
system if you use the Windows version. (The Linux version starts its *own*
desktop rather than working on the main one, so you can configure the remote
desktop to be run as any user.) In other words, it's overkill for
controlling the radio remotely.
Matt Curtis
2002-02-27 21:52:09 UTC
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Thanks for the replys so far guys.

Winradio have made some software so theres can be run remotely.
www.javaradio.com is very good, and thats exactly what i want to do,
but i have no experiance at all with Linux, and was wondering really if
there was some alternative software...if not i better start learning!

cheers all
Matt

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Shaffer" <***@alltel.net>
To: <pcr-***@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [PCR-1000] PCR1000 Web - Remote Control
Post by Jim Shaffer
Post by George, W5YR
I use Remote Administrator from
http://www.famatech.com
to control one computer from another over my LAN. I understand that it
works equally well via the Internet. Registration is only $25 and the
program is claimed to be much faster than PCAnywhere, etc.
If you use VNC from http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ it won't cost you
anything and it doesn't matter what operating system the clients are using.
However, I don't know how you're going to keep people from messing with your
system if you use the Windows version. (The Linux version starts its *own*
desktop rather than working on the main one, so you can configure the remote
desktop to be run as any user.) In other words, it's overkill for
controlling the radio remotely.
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Mark L. Hammond
2002-02-27 21:41:59 UTC
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Hrm...it was either $100 or $150--I forget. I was too mad to take good
notes :)
Post by R***@aol.com
In a message dated 02/27/2002 12:32:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
<< They said it was from corruption caused by third party software,
and it would cost me a hefty price--NOT covered by the warranty. >>
Just for grins...how much was the "hefty price"?
Roger
WA1KAT
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
Mark L. Hammond
2002-02-27 21:48:15 UTC
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Okay, I found my original note; it was legible afterall.

The estimate was $150 to realign the PCR-1000, which was "the only way to
fix the radio."
Post by Mark L. Hammond
Hrm...it was either $100 or $150--I forget. I was too mad to take good
notes :)
Post by R***@aol.com
In a message dated 02/27/2002 12:32:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
<< They said it was from corruption caused by third party software,
and it would cost me a hefty price--NOT covered by the warranty. >>
Just for grins...how much was the "hefty price"?
Roger
WA1KAT
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
mikea
2002-02-27 21:51:07 UTC
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Post by Mark L. Hammond
Okay, I found my original note; it was legible afterall.
The estimate was $150 to realign the PCR-1000, which was "the only way to
fix the radio."
Did that include them kissing you?

"... only way" indeed. <snort>
--
Mike Andrews
***@mikea.ath.cx
Tired old sysadmin since 1964
Tim Hansen
2002-02-27 22:09:29 UTC
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On 27 Feb 2002 at 12:30, Mark L. Hammond wrote:

Hi

I just got a used pcr-1000, 2 days ago, but compared to my old scanner, it=
is
not able to pick up
signals, they have to be strong for the pcr to get it, now some ware I rea=
d
something about
the eeprom can get corrupted=85=85=85 long story short=85.. is it passable=
to get
a eeprom file and then upload it..???

Thanks

Ian
Denmark
Post by Mark L. Hammond
Well, I recently got back from a trip to find my PCR-1000 had been
returned from Icom. (Quick history--I returned it for being "deaf",
under warranty. They said it was from corruption caused by third
party software, and it would cost me a hefty price--NOT covered by the
warranty. I denied repair; they charged me $25 for the "estimate" +
about $10 shipping. Total cost was about $45 to me, still not fixed!)
Luckily, I had backed up my radio with the "backpcr" program shortly
after I purchased it. The data came in handy :) I did restore
it--took all of about 5 mins, including the boot to Win98 command line
via floppy. It is working fine again.
I have been having fun looking over the comparsions/analysis of
various settings of the EEPROM that were posted on the web (the name
escapes me at the moment...). My unit has some values (in addition to
the freq/crystal one of course) that vary quite a bit from the
"average". Some are at, or even beyond, the ranges specified. So, I
might experiment a bit with custom settings for some of the values.
Not as good as a "real" alignment, but easy and potentially fun to do
:-)
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
S***@aol.com
2002-02-27 23:01:53 UTC
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if you use microsoft net meeting and share desktop you can do it. I have
tried it this way.
Bob Arnold
2002-02-27 23:42:00 UTC
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Post by S***@aol.com
if you use microsoft net meeting and share desktop you can do it. I have
tried it this way.
I have written some software that controls the ICOM IC-R75 receiver using a
web based form. I've considered doing similar software for the PCR-1000. I
do have one available for testing.

My question would be how many people are interested in something like this
if I were to complete the software? It would run entirely on a Windows
based system using easy to get support software such as a web server and
audio streaming software.

You can visit my existing site at:

http://www.ralabs.com/webradio/

to see the type of software I currently have running. All comments are
appreciated.

Bob Arnold N2JEU
dwood6
2002-02-28 00:31:34 UTC
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Arnold" <***@ralabs.com>
To: <pcr-***@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [PCR-1000] PCR1000 Web - Remote Control
Post by Bob Arnold
I have written some software that controls the ICOM IC-R75 receiver using a
web based form. I've considered doing similar software for the PCR-1000. I
do have one available for testing.
Since you've never released the software for the radios you've already
written it for it would be hard to say. I have been watching your site for
nearly a year, and contacted you about it 7 or 8 months ago, but have seen
nothing.

There is a program called ERGO that was originally written for the AOR
AR7030 and has since been expanded to included Drake, WJ, TEN-TEC and NRD
brand radios.

The new version 4.0 is in beta, and is being tested by registered ERGO 3
users. It has built in capability to control any of the above radios from
anywere on the internet with a client - server setup. It includes VERY
flexible database capabilities which also work over the internet. Although
it is in beta, and needs some work, it works for me with my AR7030. It of
course allows only one person (the owner of the software) to control the
radio. It can also control one remote and one local radio at the same time
(not tested by me).

The best part about this version of ERGO, is that when it is released, John
plans on releasing the info needed to write add-in modules so it can control
any radio. So far, all radios share a common interface with all of a radios
particular controls programmed into a module. I see no reason a PCR1000
module could not be created. (I am also hoping to create a module for my
Icom R75).

Check it out at http://swldx.com
m***@btinternet.com
2002-02-28 11:27:30 UTC
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Hi there, thanks again for the info on this.

I would like to make the radio available for tune by anyone really, most operational web radios have a Handle and Location box, that would be ideal for login.

javaradio as i said before is very very good, but not so good if you are not a linux expert.........I hope our friend Bob can make a interface for the PCR1000 to use with his software.

Matt
Post by Matt Curtis
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [PCR-1000] PCR1000 Web - Remote Control
Post by Bob Arnold
I have written some software that controls the ICOM IC-R75 receiver using
a
Post by Bob Arnold
web based form. I've considered doing similar software for the PCR-1000. I
do have one available for testing.
Since you've never released the software for the radios you've already
written it for it would be hard to say. I have been watching your site for
nearly a year, and contacted you about it 7 or 8 months ago, but have seen
nothing.
There is a program called ERGO that was originally written for the AOR
AR7030 and has since been expanded to included Drake, WJ, TEN-TEC and NRD
brand radios.
The new version 4.0 is in beta, and is being tested by registered ERGO 3
users. It has built in capability to control any of the above radios from
anywere on the internet with a client - server setup. It includes VERY
flexible database capabilities which also work over the internet. Although
it is in beta, and needs some work, it works for me with my AR7030. It of
course allows only one person (the owner of the software) to control the
radio. It can also control one remote and one local radio at the same time
(not tested by me).
The best part about this version of ERGO, is that when it is released, John
plans on releasing the info needed to write add-in modules so it can control
any radio. So far, all radios share a common interface with all of a radios
particular controls programmed into a module. I see no reason a PCR1000
module could not be created. (I am also hoping to create a module for my
Icom R75).
Check it out at <a href="/bti/redirect.html?http://swldx.com" target="newLink">http://swldx.com</a>
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jim strader
2002-02-28 16:30:43 UTC
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There's a program called Visual Radio that will
allow one to control a multitude of different
radios (including the PCR1000) via TCP/IP over
the internet or an intranet. It' expensive but
a very nice program and a kick-ass built in
Master Database.

Here's the link:
http://www.visualradio.de/startinter.htm

jim

-----Original Message-----
From: pcr-1000-***@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:pcr-1000-***@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
***@btinternet.com
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 6:28 AM
To: pcr-***@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [PCR-1000] PCR1000 Web - Remote Control


Hi there, thanks again for the info on this.

I would like to make the radio available for tune by anyone really, most
operational web radios have a Handle and Location box, that would be
ideal for login.

javaradio as i said before is very very good, but not so good if you are
not a linux expert.........I hope our friend Bob can make a interface
for the PCR1000 to use with his software.

Matt
Post by Matt Curtis
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [PCR-1000] PCR1000 Web - Remote Control
Post by Bob Arnold
I have written some software that controls the ICOM IC-R75 receiver
using
Post by Matt Curtis
a
Post by Bob Arnold
web based form. I've considered doing similar software for the
PCR-1000. I
Post by Matt Curtis
Post by Bob Arnold
do have one available for testing.
Since you've never released the software for the radios you've already
written it for it would be hard to say. I have been watching your site
for
Post by Matt Curtis
nearly a year, and contacted you about it 7 or 8 months ago, but have
seen
Post by Matt Curtis
nothing.
There is a program called ERGO that was originally written for the AOR
AR7030 and has since been expanded to included Drake, WJ, TEN-TEC and
NRD
Post by Matt Curtis
brand radios.
The new version 4.0 is in beta, and is being tested by registered ERGO
3
Post by Matt Curtis
users. It has built in capability to control any of the above radios
from
Post by Matt Curtis
anywere on the internet with a client - server setup. It includes VERY
flexible database capabilities which also work over the internet.
Although
Post by Matt Curtis
it is in beta, and needs some work, it works for me with my AR7030. It
of
Post by Matt Curtis
course allows only one person (the owner of the software) to control
the
Post by Matt Curtis
radio. It can also control one remote and one local radio at the same
time
Post by Matt Curtis
(not tested by me).
The best part about this version of ERGO, is that when it is released,
John
Post by Matt Curtis
plans on releasing the info needed to write add-in modules so it can
control
Post by Matt Curtis
any radio. So far, all radios share a common interface with all of a
radios
Post by Matt Curtis
particular controls programmed into a module. I see no reason a
PCR1000
Post by Matt Curtis
module could not be created. (I am also hoping to create a module for
my
Post by Matt Curtis
Icom R75).
Check it out at <a href="/bti/redirect.html?http://swldx.com"
target="newLink">http://swldx.com</a>
Post by Matt Curtis
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